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(te) goedkope USB laders...

Berichtdoor mvdbro » 29 sep 2014, 14:12

Chinese goedkope USB laders slecht en gevaarlijk?
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Aanleiding:

Enkele resultaten uit dat artikel:
- Geen temperatuur beveiliging
- Fysieke ruimte tussen hoog en laag voltage op de print is zeer minimaal (< 1mm)
- Isolatie in de transformator (galvanische scheiding tussen hoog en laag voltage) is enkelvoudig
Al met al dus meer kans op kortsluiting, overslaan en in rook opgaan van de unit, alsmede > 400 volt op de USB stekker...

Nu rijst de vraag, hoe kom je aan een veilige lader voor b.v. je Arduino Mini Pro en zijn laders van de "action" en vergelijkbare budget winkels wel veilig? Waar kopen zij die dingen? Die goedkope units hebben ook de keurmerken erop geprint, maar wie controleert dat? En dat ze stuk gaan zou nog niet zo erg zijn, maar smeulend/brandend ten onder gaan, daar hou ik niet zo van... En 400 volt ipv 5 volt is ook niet erg prettig...

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Ik heb een paar "noname" USB laders van de Karwei, zouden die beter zijn? Ik was toch eens benieuwd naar de kwaliteit van die dingen en dus eentje opgegemaakt om de inhoud te checken.
De print laat een duidelijk onderscheid van >5 mm zien tussen hoog en laagspanningsdeel, dus daar is over nagedacht. Verder zie ik 3 componenten die een link maken tussen hoog en laagspanning:

1) Transformator
2) Optocoupler
3) Condensator

De transformator kan ik verder niet beoordelen zonder deze geheel te slopen... De optocoupler mag ik toch beschouwen als veilig (?) De condensator lijkt te worden gebruikt als EMI filter (Y-capacitor) Het is een wat dikke blauwe versie en dat lijkt gunstig aangezien de speciale secure Y-capacitors blauw zouden moeten zijn en wat dikker zouden zijn dan keramische versies. Verder zie ik gebruik van krimpkous op diverse plekken om zaken verder te isoleren. Al met al maakt het een redelijke indruk...

Ook interessant:
What capacitor types are used in line filters? Two common types are metallised paper/film and ceramic. For Y capacitors, ceramic types are less expensive than metallised film, but unstable over time and temperature and less mechanically stable. Ceramic failure mode also tends toward short circuit, whereas metallised paper and film types tend towards open circuit.

Het zou mooi zijn als er nog een gulden middenweg is tussen de mooie compacte Apple lader van 20 euro en de imitatie variant van 1 euro. Heeft op dit forum iemand ervaring met de 1 euro laders van ebay?
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Re: (te) goedkope USB laders...

Berichtdoor markuser » 29 sep 2014, 16:51

Geen USB lader, maar deze zitten op al mijn Nodo's.
http://www.ebay.nl/itm/EU-DC-7-5V-1A-Sw ... 2c646bc784
Mvg, Mark

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